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  All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?

  by sowhatnow in

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  2. beliefs

  id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

  nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.

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  apostrate,

  It's interesting to note that although some Bible Students organizations are still around the Witnesses are the only ones who grew to much larger numbers. That too was Rutherford's doing. "Advertise, advertise, advertise the King and his Kingdom!".

  I bring that up because the larger a group becomes the less likely they are to completely disappear. I think however that the Witnesses are so tied in to their governing body that no one is likely to become a new leader of a JW sect. Either way it would be interesting to see if they implode and how.
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  Does forever mean forever?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1 chronicles 28:9 "and you, my son solomon, acknowledge the god of your father, and serve him with wholehearted devotion and with a willing mind, for the lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought.

  if you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.

  is the word "forever" literal or figurative?

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  Is olam the word that the New World Translation translates as "time indefinite"?
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses sued over sex abuse claims—some 2000 cases to choose from.

  by 4rationality in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  divining liability.

  kimberlee norris began evaluating these cases in july 2002. with some 2000 cases to choose from, norris and partner gregory love came up with a rigid profile of what kind of case and where.

  love and norris decided only to take cases where they could prove the church knew its member was a perpetrator and placed him in a position of authority anyway.

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  "As of May 2004, the firm had filed 57 suits across the country."

  Are these 57 cases all the cases that are considered extreme out of the 2,000 or are there other extreme cases that they haven't had time or resources to pursue?
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  The beginning of the end for shunning?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?

  " there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.

  i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.

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  Years ago they used to refer to 'strayers' as having "fallen out of the truth." Is that term still used?
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  All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

  nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.

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  Village Idiot

  apostrate, that happened to the Worldwide Church of God.
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  The beginning of the end for shunning?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?

  " there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.

  i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.

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  @ The Searcher:

  "Only hard-core, obedient, contributing Witnesses will be the order of the day!"

  It happened in Rutherford's day, big-time.
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  For God So Loves the Western World...

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...that only people from those countries can lead 'his organization'.. a few years ago, one conversation stopper people would often bring up to jws in my country is: 'you guys are an american religion'.

  the standard answer we were formatted to give to shoot that down was that "god does not favor any nationality over others.

  however some countries do possess some advantages needed for the advancement of the divine work.

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  Tempest in a Teacup, thank you for the post but I have a question.

  Why should we suggest anything to the Watchtower/Governing Body that will improve them?
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  All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

  nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.

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  Village Idiot

  @ never a jw, Sorry for the confusion.
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  The beginning of the end for shunning?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?

  " there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.

  i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.

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  Village Idiot

  What Finkelstein said above.

  If the Mormons have excommunication then why would the Witnesses not have it?
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  All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

  nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.

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  @ never a jw:

  "Who are we to meddle because we personally do not like someone else's religion or beliefs? They might not like ours either."

  If you had grown up in the religion you would know why. And many of us do not believe in a god. Furthermore you seem to contradict yourself.

  "Humble yourselves and let God take care it. Let God take care of ending that which is false."

  Compare to:

  "By the way, I like a God that leaves humanity alone."